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Color IR baby posted by Craig (Admin) July 11, 2005 10:49AM reply | quote
posted by Craig

Modified my D70 ([www.digitalweddingforum.com]) to be more sensitive to IR light.

(update) Seems that this very incomplete tutorial was taken down. It took me three tries reassembling my D70 before it worked. I was sweating and shaking by the time the third moment of truth was upon me when I figured out the problem. See this post for another, better solution: [lensbabies.com]

Here is my results from a few minutes ago.

-Craig



You could not step twice into the same rivers; for other waters are ever flowing on to you.
Heraclitus of Ephesus



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/11/2006 04:01PM by Craig.
Re: Color IR baby posted by pacha July 11, 2005 01:34PM reply | quote
posted by pacha
Interesting try, it look a bit like a painting.
Re: Color IR baby posted by floatingcreeper July 11, 2005 01:40PM reply | quote
posted by floatingcreeper
god! things you guys do! :-)) <am referring to the anatomy classes on my D(arling)70!>

beautiful output, Craig!
Can you tell about the subjects and when it was taken, etc. ?
Re: Color IR baby posted by Craig (Admin) July 11, 2005 02:47PM reply | quote
posted by Craig

The subject was a weeping willow tree with the Willamette River and a bridge behind.

Here are three from the same walk this afternoon, not so abstract. Lamp post is a B&W with a little tone, too much crossover in cloud colors on that image to make the color work for me.

-Craig



You could not step twice into the same rivers; for other waters are ever flowing on to you.
Heraclitus of Ephesus
Re: Color IR baby posted by David Morel July 11, 2005 02:59PM reply | quote
posted by David Morel

Did you do it yourself or have them do it? I have one of my d70's there now being modified! :-)



David L. Morel
www.davidmorelphoto.com
Re: Color IR baby posted by blam July 11, 2005 03:54PM reply | quote
posted by blam

I had a buddy do a similar "operation" on a Pentax camera (I think). His wife shoots only IR, and he's very happy with the results. He did say, however, that he sweat bullets during his camera surgery.

Can you make the images B/W IR in photoshop? And do you have any latitude in what colors the camera retains/sees? I don't know much about IR, so I was just curious.

Very cool images.

-d
Re: Color IR baby posted by Craig (Admin) July 11, 2005 03:59PM reply | quote
posted by Craig

David,

I did it myself.

It was more involved than the tutorial indicates.

I'm excited to see some of your results.

-Craig



You could not step twice into the same rivers; for other waters are ever flowing on to you.
Heraclitus of Ephesus
Re: Color IR baby posted by ranfoto July 11, 2005 05:28PM reply | quote
posted by ranfoto

It's certainly new, and different, um I don't know if I ready to IRbaby until I see more results. Craig you must be upgrading to Probodies and turning your used D70's into speciality shooters.



Ran D. See more of my aRt here: [www.artbending.com]
Re: Color IR baby posted by pkk July 11, 2005 06:32PM reply | quote
posted by pkk

This is very fine IR work Craig.
It looks like a big operation that can't be undone if you don't like the results..
Canon G2 is a great camera, and a guy in Hong Kong, Don Ellis, has the same reciepe for chancing the IR cut filter on the G2 camera.
The only problem with the G2 is it wont work with the Lensbaby.
Maybe you can do something about it, so all the poit and shoot cameras with fixed lenses can be used with LB lenses....
I know it has nothing to do with Lensbaby shots but it is really great IR photography and you can get new inspiration for IR photography.
The site is kleptography. com

Peter
Re: Color IR baby posted by floatingcreeper July 11, 2005 10:06PM reply | quote
posted by floatingcreeper
Peter so many thanx for the Kleptography link! it was awesome reading through it.
Re: Color IR baby posted by floatingcreeper August 15, 2005 11:35AM reply | quote
posted by floatingcreeper
Craig: I have added a link to this post under the "Creative Uses" in the FAQ. Hop e it is ok.
Re: Color IR baby posted by Peggy August 15, 2005 01:28PM reply | quote
posted by Peggy

Craig -

This is just the sort of innovative behavior I have come to love as your nature during our friendship.

"modified my D70..."

You had me at hello my friend,
You had me at hello...

Your biggest fan

Crazy Danger Girl
(always pushing the square pegs into round holes)

Re: Color IR baby posted by MelBrackstone August 15, 2005 02:19PM reply | quote
posted by MelBrackstone

Being spoilt by using my G2 for IR I've been soooooo disappointed in the output from the 20D, and now I see your beautiful shot Craig! I really do need to work out how to get decent IR from it somehow.

Don's site has been another inspiration for me, I must admit...I guess that shows how weird I must be, always going for the marginal stuff....lol.

Keep showing us more and more please!

Mel :) In sunny Brisbane, Australia
[nee-hai.com]
Re: Color IR baby posted by Unni June 10, 2008 08:09PM reply | quote
posted by Unni

Can anyone tell me what IR is?

I just picked up this old post from a link at FAQ. Amazing photos.
Whatever it is, it gives fantastic results. Maybe I should know that this is, but I guess it has another name in my language.

Unni
Re: Color IR baby posted by didipusrex June 10, 2008 08:58PM reply | quote
posted by didipusrex
Wow! How long were your exposure times on average, Craig?
Re: Color IR baby posted by MelBrackstone June 10, 2008 09:50PM reply | quote
posted by MelBrackstone

Unni, IR is infrared.

Mel :) In sunny Brisbane, Australia
[nee-hai.com]
Re: Color IR baby posted by Unni June 10, 2008 10:40PM reply | quote
posted by Unni

Thanks Mel,
Of course, now it sounds logic. But it is not always easy to figure this out from two letters :-)

Unni
Re: Color IR baby posted by Jack Howard June 10, 2008 10:53PM reply | quote
posted by Jack Howard

Very cool stuff Craig.

My colleague Dan Richards wrote a very thorough piece on Digital IR recently.

Of note: if you are scared to do the mod yourself, there are at least 2 companies that sell OEM cameras that they have modded, or they will mod your existing camera.

The Sigma SD14 is the easiest camera to convert from IR + Visible and back to Visible-only because the IR-cut filter sits right inside the lens mount opening... but it doesn't appear that there's a Lensbaby compatible with the Sigma mount...

I've got some IR-plus cameras, but they are Nikon mount and my 3G LB is Canon mount, so I can't get my and IR-plus-visible-plus-lensbaby-plus-HDR style shots yet :(
Re: Color IR baby posted by kudzu June 11, 2008 01:15AM reply | quote
posted by kudzu

What a great combo! Bending reality on two fronts. Great shots!

(reality is optional)
Re: Color IR baby posted by David Morel June 11, 2008 01:24AM reply | quote
posted by David Morel

Here is a IR LBshot I took of the Parthenon in Nashville...the combination of the IR and the LB is a really nice fit!

David L. Morel
www.davidmorelphoto.com
Re: Color IR baby posted by Craig (Admin) June 11, 2008 03:42AM reply | quote
posted by Craig

PopPhotoJack Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------

> I've got some IR-plus cameras, but they are Nikon
> mount and my 3G LB is Canon mount, so I can't get
> my and IR-plus-visible-plus-lensbaby-plus-HDR
> style shots yet :(

Jack,

We have to fix that with a Nikon Lensbaby.

I don't have a converted body anymore as everytime someone asks me to convert one for them I just sell them a D70 I already converted.

didipusrex,

Regarding exposure times, the images I posted were shot handheld at normal (1/250?) exposures. Converting a camera to IR means that no opaque filters are necessary. Here is a great site for info: [www.lifepixel.com]

-Craig

You could not step twice into the same rivers; for other waters are ever flowing on to you.
Heraclitus of Ephesus
Re: Color IR baby posted by Kirsten (Admin) June 11, 2008 04:54AM reply | quote
posted by Kirsten

btw the Pentax K mount Lensbabies fit on the Sigma DSLR cameras...

Kirsten Hunter
Director of Customer Happiness
Re: Color IR baby posted by danni-kool June 11, 2008 10:34AM reply | quote
posted by danni-kool

Can anyone perhaps post some "before and after" photos?
Re: Color IR baby posted by David Morel June 11, 2008 02:03PM reply | quote
posted by David Morel

Before and after what? Post processing?

David L. Morel
www.davidmorelphoto.com
Re: Color IR baby posted by janikphoto June 11, 2008 02:07PM reply | quote
posted by janikphoto

I think he means before it goes into photoshop? I'm sure you aren't having to do much in PS, since infrared images are already wacky enough on their own...
Re: Color IR baby posted by Trav June 11, 2008 10:51PM reply | quote
posted by Trav

PopPhotoJack: Just grab a cheap Canon Lens to Nikon Body adapter, maybe?

-Trav
Re: Color IR baby posted by MelBrackstone June 11, 2008 11:49PM reply | quote
posted by MelBrackstone

I think the Nikon lens opening is too small for a Canon lens....although you never know, there might be an adaptor

Mel :) In sunny Brisbane, Australia
[nee-hai.com]
Re: Color IR baby posted by peterb533 June 12, 2008 12:40AM reply | quote
posted by peterb533

Just sent an old Canon 10D to Advanced Camera Services to have it converted to IR only (to cowardly to try myself). I'll post some shots when I get it back, maybe compared to the same view shot with my 40D.
Re: Color IR baby posted by Joz June 12, 2008 01:37AM reply | quote
posted by Joz

Congratulations Craig :o)

Very nice and mystic shot, i'm an IR and UV fan too...
May i ask you where from you got the filter? i mean 37mm filter or adapter?

Btw D70 works great with IR and UV in comparsion with D80 or D200.
Re: Color IR baby posted by Craig (Admin) June 13, 2008 02:39AM reply | quote
posted by Craig

Joz,

I got my most recent conversion filters to go over the CCD in the camera from Lifepixel. These go inside the camera and replace the IR cut filter that comes mounted in front of the CCD, behind the shutter.

Prior to converting a camera I used filters from Harrison and Harrison [infrareddreams.com] that gave me good results. Shooting with a body that has not been modified requires long exposures, longer with most Canon bodies than with most Nikon bodies. I could shoot IR images at 1/40 of a second with a D100 at 1600 ISO at f1.4 in bright sunlight using one of the Harrison and Harrison IR pass filters (I don't remember which).

My first few conversions were using a clear filter that I used to replace the IR cut filter on my D70 bodies. Shooting through a 25 red filter on the front of the lens was all that was needed to get the IR effect, similar to shooting Kodak high speed infrared film. Swapping out the filter for a hoya hot mirror filter got some amazing high saturation, not quite accurate color palette effects in non-ir photography. Very low grain when shot with the hot mirror too. I miss those bodies (other photographers bought them off me and I transitioned to IR only conversions.

Hope this helps.

-Craig

You could not step twice into the same rivers; for other waters are ever flowing on to you.
Heraclitus of Ephesus

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